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Cryonic
10-31-2008, 06:28 PM
http://www.giantitp.com/index.html#MZvsP18xmNXpVDwvCRQ

10/31/2008

As has been reported by a few other gaming blogs and news sites, the Charity Auction at this year's GenCon Indianapolis was held to benefit Gary Gygax's favorite charity, which I will not name here for reasons that will soon become obvious. The fine folks at GenCon raised over $17,000 for this charity, which helps starving children in impovershed areas of the world--only to have that money actually turned down by the charity. The charity refused due to the fact that the money was raised partly by the sales of Dungeons and Dragons materials, which as we all know, puts an irrevocable taint of evil on the filthy lucre that us demon-worshipping gamers might want to use to, say, donate to starving children. Not only is this a slap in the face to every gamer, but it is especially insulting to Mr. Gygax himself, who I understand donated to their cause many times over the years. Plus, I'm sure the children who would have gotten food or clean drinking water with that money would be sort of upset, too.

I bring this story to your attention not simply so that you might let the people at this charity know how you feel (especially if you have donated to it before, as many did in the wake of Mr. Gygax's passing), but so that you would be aware that there is an alternative charity that I would personally recommend (based on our own charitable giving) if you have a desire to donate money to help starving children. Plan USA is a worldwide charity aimed at helping those who live in poverty and/or have suffered from a natural disaster, particularly with monthly sponsorships of individual children. Since the money of D&D players is clearly not welcome at this other charity, I can't recommend Plan USA highly enough to those interested in giving anyway. At least if you choose to donate through them, there's no chance your generous gifts to the starving children of the world will be rejected due to your weekend hobby.

(Incidentally, GenCon was also able to find another worthy charity with an entirely different focus, the Fisher House Foundation, that was willing to accept the money given in good faith by GenCon attendees.)

skeloric
10-31-2008, 07:17 PM
Their attitude will certainly hurt them.
There are more and more gamers than people realize.

Stormchild
10-31-2008, 09:33 PM
A fund associated with the army? That is certainly better than god-forgotten roleplayers who, as everybody knows are but training for wars and, of course, worship the devil.

Whill
11-01-2008, 02:12 AM
sadness :(

imported_Magman
11-01-2008, 06:24 AM
You got to laugh sometimes at the people who live on this planet.

Stormchild
11-01-2008, 07:19 AM
Though I don't like D&D as there are better games out there for my taste, I always acknowledged what Gary Gygax has done for our hobby.

For centuries it would have been possible to invent roleplaying but no one did (to be fair storytelling games were popular in the 19th century and the irish folklore of spinning a tall tale is something akin to that but it is like comparing nine men's morris to chess) and then he together with Dave Arneson invented a game that encompasses everything RPG is today. All that has been developed ever since is but fine tuning (though I rather drive in a car of today's technology than in a Tin Lizzy, both do the job).

To let the quarrel if this game could be a problem for kids get so far as to refuse the commemoration of this man doesn't look too christian to me.

The Game Guy
11-02-2008, 09:33 AM
Really to me it's not a big deal and I think saying "Boycott the CCF" is a little silly.

They didnt want the money because of their misguided feelings towards D&D?

Fine. There are other charities out there who will accept the money. The CCF's loss is someone else's gain.

pathfinderap
11-02-2008, 09:58 AM
sadness :(

Indeed, :(

Kansas Jim
11-04-2008, 03:28 PM
The CCF issued a statement saying that they did not accept the donation from GenCon not because of any associations with D&D but because they have policies about accepting funds from events that they are not involved with, they don't want to create an impression that they endorse or sponsor events they're not officially affiliated with.

It could be spin, but in some other forums people who have worked with different charities have said that they do often have policies like that in place, so this may be another kerfluffle blown up into something it's not.

Cryonic
11-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Well, we don't have what they said exactly when turning down the donation. I suspect it is just spin.

Stormchild
11-04-2008, 03:43 PM
Even if it may be spin, this settles it for me. Of course, they have to make sure not to get associated with anything detrimental like nazis or communists.

skeloric
11-04-2008, 04:43 PM
The CCF issued a statement saying that they did not accept the donation from GenCon not because of any associations with D&D but because they have policies about accepting funds from events that they are not involved with, they don't want to create an impression that they endorse or sponsor events they're not officially affiliated with.

It could be spin, but in some other forums people who have worked with different charities have said that they do often have policies like that in place, so this may be another kerfluffle blown up into something it's not.
Its a smokescreen.
Its a "Christian" charity refusing money raised from "ebil" D&D.
they are still living by the "D&D is EBIL!" crap that tried to roll out back in the 198os -- the very Anti-D&D campaign which made D&D the publishing giant whose product regularly outsells the Bible throughout the world.
Of course the "Christian" charity would refuse the money, D&D just about outperformed them in raising money because there are so many more D&D players than there are "Christians" -- the very result of the Fundamentalists running the best ever PRO-D&D advertising campaign:
"Don't buy D&D! Its Ebil!" they screamed throughout the 80s.
THUS EVERYBODY BOUGHT D&D.

Its has to be like chewing ground glass even to be offered all that money as a donation from the "D&D Convention".
Accepting it would have required accepting the ultimate and inevitable failure of vilifying something in order to drive people away from it.

The Game Guy
11-04-2008, 07:32 PM
Its a smokescreen.
Its a "Christian" charity refusing money raised from "ebil" D&D.
they are still living by the "D&D is EBIL!" crap that tried to roll out back in the 198os -- the very Anti-D&D campaign which made D&D the publishing giant whose product regularly outsells the Bible throughout the world.
Of course the "Christian" charity would refuse the money, D&D just about outperformed them in raising money because there are so many more D&D players than there are "Christians" -- the very result of the Fundamentalists running the best ever PRO-D&D advertising campaign:
"Don't buy D&D! Its Ebil!" they screamed throughout the 80s.
THUS EVERYBODY BOUGHT D&D.

Its has to be like chewing ground glass even to be offered all that money as a donation from the "D&D Convention".
Accepting it would have required accepting the ultimate and inevitable failure of vilifying something in order to drive people away from it.

Ok, we get your hate for D&D and whatnot. They said it has nothing to do with D&D and I believe it.

Anyway I can see this thread going downhill fast. I am going to close it.