Curious: The Main WEG forums: Do you check them?

[The Game Guy]

I was curious if anyone still checks the main WEG forums anymore. I do from time to time and there is occasionally a post but I was curious if others were still checking them or not.

[Jamfke]

I check it daily since it is the publisher's main web presence. I'd like to find out when and if the sale ever goes through. Of course, like most everything else, I tend to find out these things from other sources, but I check anyway out of habit I suppose.

[pathfinderap]

I was curious if anyone still checks the main WEG forums anymore. I do from time to time and there is occasionally a post but I was curious if others were still checking them or not.

Yeah, I went the other day,

[Stormchild]

From time to time. As I left the forum over a year ago and only took an occassional glance, I am only curious if new info is there. Since Hellsreach is also posting here, there is no need for that anymore. So I do it only when I have nothing better to do.

[Kalzazz]

Every so often

[Kansas Jim]

I usually check it first and then come over here.

[hellsreach]

Yes, every day :)

[skeloric]

I also still check them and will be there right after here.

[cheshire]

Only very occasionally.

[The Game Guy]

Only very occasionally.

I check them occasionally myself. Sometimes there will be a new post or two so I will check out what is said.

There are a couple people on there that just will not post over here. Claim we take traffic from over.

Oh well, their loss.

[The Game Guy]

Yes, every day :)

You do?? :D Totally surprised.

[skeloric]

What is sad about WEG was that NO conversations were (nor are) happening at all, EXCEPT for vultures circling overhead waiting for WEG to crawl its few yards before expiring.
That gets tiring after awhile.
It also has me thinking of a bunch of greedy people waiting for Grandpa to die so they can inherit.

[kellhound]

Yep, true that.

Oh, and I keep checking a couple times a week.

[The Game Guy]

What is sad about WEG was that NO conversations were (nor are) happening at all, EXCEPT for vultures circling overhead waiting for WEG to crawl its few yards before expiring.
That gets tiring after awhile.
It also has me thinking of a bunch of greedy people waiting for Grandpa to die so they can inherit.

The thing that annoys me is that that there are some people on the WEG forums saying we are taking away discussions from there. Well, there were no discussions to begin with. People come over here, threads started being posted and we became active.

Yes, it's sad that a fan forum is more active then the official forum, I just created a fan forum, I didnt point a gun at anyones head forcing them to come here.

[skeloric]

The thing that annoys me is that that there are some people on the WEG forums saying we are taking away discussions from there. Well, there were no discussions to begin with. People come over here, threads started being posted and we became active.

Yes, it's sad that a fan forum is more active then the official forum, I just created a fan forum, I didn't point a gun at anyones head forcing them to come here.
As the cornerstone of the WEG Forums as its premier poster -- more posts than the owner and 3rd most prolific poster combined -- I saw the place go from thriving with dozens of posts in a day to finally a post a week.
To where the spam accounts were all that remained that were still visiting daily, it certainly wasn't anyone else.
With the company itself now in doubt until the sale is concluded, I was less than eager to add to the threads until I learned if the current WEG Forum would be retained by the new owner or if he would start over.
With the place targeted by spammers in such large numbers as it is, it probably would be better if they were abandoned.
Then again, maybe the WEG forums should continue existing just so it can be a lightning rod for the Spammers while anyone who is a real WEG fan and contributor will be on these forums instead.

[The Game Guy]

As the cornerstone of the WEG Forums as its premier poster -- more posts than the owner and 3rd most prolific poster combined -- I saw the place go from thriving with dozens of posts in a day to finally a post a week.

Yep, that can be a problem. If you have a ton of people who lurk but wont post it really doesn't help.


To where the spam accounts were all that remained that were still visiting daily, it certainly wasn't anyone else.
With the company itself now in doubt until the sale is concluded, I was less than eager to add to the threads until I learned if the current WEG Forum would be retained by the new owner or if he would start over.
With the place targeted by spammers in such large numbers as it is, it probably would be better if they were abandoned.
Then again, maybe the WEG forums should continue existing just so it can be a lightning rod for the Spammers while anyone who is a real WEG fan and contributor will be on these forums instead.

Wow, you mention spam. I didn't see that coming. :rolleyes:

Well I am not going to suggest WEG abandon their forums at it appears that the second part has come true, the spammers go there and the people who want to talk games go here.

So in a way this is a second WEG forum. Not official but around and active.

[Cryonic]

Spammer's bots go everywhere, Skel... They even hit my little Blog which isn't hosted on any of the major Blog sites...

As to why few if any people go to the WEG site, well, it's been in decline for the past several years since new material stopped coming out and there are plenty of other places to support the habit (Rancorpit, Holonet, RPGnet). Traffic went back up after the announcement of Septimus and then plummeted again as no apparent progress was made...

Interestingly, all the boards that I go to saw their last peak traffic more than a year ago (bottom of the forums where it says most users seen...).

[The Game Guy]

Spammer's bots go everywhere, Skel... They even hit my little Blog which isn't hosted on any of the major Blog sites...

That happened on one of my blog sites. I got comment spam (now luckily at the time comments were moderated) but then I went to human interface apps that make comment spam very hard and almost not worth it.


As to why few if any people go to the WEG site, well, it's been in decline for the past several years since new material stopped coming out and there are plenty of other places to support the habit (Rancorpit, Holonet, RPGnet). Traffic went back up after the announcement of Septimus and then plummeted again as no apparent progress was made...

Interestingly, all the boards that I go to saw their last peak traffic more than a year ago (bottom of the forums where it says most users seen...).

I would imagine WEG not putting out anything and being in a state of being sold probably doesnt help either the main forums or these.

[Cryonic]

I would imagine WEG not putting out anything and being in a state of being sold probably doesnt help either the main forums or these.

Right, but I was referring to all the boards, not just the D6 or WEG related ones having been a year or more since peak users online.

[The Game Guy]

Right, but I was referring to all the boards, not just the D6 or WEG related ones having been a year or more since peak users online.

Right, so was I (although I may not have worried it as well as I would have liked to).

[skeloric]

I have since my last post in this thread, completely abandoned the WEG forums.
Since absolutely nothing happens there nor does it seem likely that they might ever, visiting took enough time that I stopped bothering.
As someone who has invested massive amount of time into WEG's forums, it is disheartening to see the majority of members there (more than 500 confirmed long term members!) haven't been interested in participating in a long time.
So far we have close to 70 members here and an overwhelming majority of them seem interested in participating in the forums, which bodes well for the "fan" forums.

[The Game Guy]

So far we have close to 70 members here and an overwhelming majority of them seem interested in participating in the forums, which bodes well for the "fan" forums.

I am sure that is part of the reason why Eric made the comment about letting this site take care of the forum work.

I personally don't see a problem with both of the forums working together and sticking around.

[Whill]

I don't check it that much anymore, and I'd prefer to just have one. I think that the original board should remain in some form for archival purposes, but new posting might as well just be limited to here, since here is where the new posting is happening anyway.

My $0.02

[The Game Guy]

I don't check it that much anymore, and I'd prefer to just have one. I think that the original board should remain in some form for archival purposes, but new posting might as well just be limited to here, since here is where the new posting is happening anyway.

My $0.02

Well it doesn't help over there because many of the forum posts are older and disappear unless you change the settings so they show up again.

Hopefully some of those topics can be redone over here so they are in an active forum and also they can help this forum stay active.

[skeloric]

Also, most of the old the older threads over at WEG fall in to several sets:
1. Basic question that could be answered in a FAQ.
Some most likely already were answered in a FAQ even before the question was asked.

2. Thread had significance only to the site.
These covered at least 10% of the site and are easily lost.
they typically pertain to people who are not members here and are certainly no longer involved there.

3. Harebrained ideas.
They happen.
Mostly, they just need to be forgotten.

4. Useful content that exists nowhere else.
This is maybe about 10% of the entire four years of the WEG forums.
Anything really good is probably locatable on at least a few hard drives around the world, but such isn't all that accessible.
The trick also is going through 4 years of threads and selecting something so incredibly subjective.

5. My stuff.
I moved everything I could think of that I had started as far as Cosm ideas and such -- found by looking for threads I started predominantly -- over to here in the first week or so.
Therefore, that which i desire to keep has been salvaged.
The stuff I can't locate is probably stuff that i won't miss.

[Stormchild]

So, this could be a lesson for this site. There could be the need to collect interesting ideas and material. How to decide what should be put up there or how (or even if) there is some kind of a vote to put material up there is best left to The Game Guy. Maybe he produces a digest every month (or delegates this to someone, f.i. Skeloric as the most avid poster)

[skeloric]

"Documented' ideas collated from threads where there has been sufficient work completed and hashed out could indeed be useful.
I've encountered a few other sites (well, just one really) where they have "projects" that are eventually "published' and offered for download elsewhere.
Imagine a download area where a dozen PDFs are available that add to the games and increase the value of the game itself.
I really lack the "eye" for organizing a document for publication so I will remove myself from consideration from the start.

[Liteft]

I also lack the "eye" for putting together a document. What I am good at is mineing raw material and once I have a good rough start I make pretty good revisions. (if I do say so myself) With what time I have I'd be more than happy to help someone or a group of someones pull things together.

So if someone wants to take point on a project like this..... keep me in mind

Shawn

[Jamfke]

I'll help with the layout of PDFs if someone else compiles the info.

[imported_Magman]

I am finding more and more time from my new job to get back into my old habits with the forums and finally could start finishing my Torg project. But several things were just thrown out in the thread here and just want to clarrify what exactly is the suggestion.

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for FAQ's to compile?

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for content related to a specific game and compile it? And this content being what in nature ? Just ideas to change in game?

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for content that could be used in a supplement addition to a specific game and compile it as such?

[skeloric]

I am finding more and more time from my new job to get back into my old habits with the forums and finally could start finishing my Torg project. But several things were just thrown out in the thread here and just want to clarrify what exactly is the suggestion.

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for FAQ's to compile?

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for content related to a specific game and compile it? And this content being what in nature ? Just ideas to change in game?

Is it to comb through the original and fan forums for content that could be used in a supplement addition to a specific game and compile it as such?

It is all of those but at this point we are focusing upon the old forums.
Since the eventual sale of WEG could put the WEG forums in jeopardy, cataloging and archiving and consolidating info there seems to be a vital import and may in fact be time sensitive.

[Stormchild]

I was thinking more in the line of a resource for fan material. This of course needs someone to compile fan material that came up in a thread.

A faq on the other hand would also be a good thing. As far as I remember, there was a very extensive faq in the Torg mailing list, though for my taste, it needed a lot of sorting and indexing.

I also see the need of an index for published WEG material. The world of Aden supplement Campaign Chronicles has done a good job for this game. There are indices for spells, creatures and locations (with a segmented map for reference). It would be a huge endeavour for Torg but worth quite a lot.

[imported_Magman]

I will take a look at the WEG site and see what I can deduce and where I see myself fitting into this to help. If Eric wants to backup and provide a copy of the forum content that could prove useful for this project. It would make sorting through all the pages a lot faster if I had them installed on a local machine. I could also run queries on the content and sort out accordingly. Perhaps Eric could chime in and give his thoughts on the matter?

[The Game Guy]

So, this could be a lesson for this site. There could be the need to collect interesting ideas and material. How to decide what should be put up there or how (or even if) there is some kind of a vote to put material up there is best left to The Game Guy. Maybe he produces a digest every month (or delegates this to someone, f.i. Skeloric as the most avid poster)

I am good with this. While I don't have the time to put the documents together myself, if someone else has the time to do so I would be more then happy to host them here.