What WEG games would you like to see revived

[The Game Guy]

I know a lot of people want D6 to be revived as well as Torg.

Are there any lesser properties that you would like to see revived?

[skeloric]

TORG is it for me.
Eric had had plans for Shatterzone to be adapted to TORG which might never occur and it getting updated to TORG was specifically something I had hoped to see but can't be certain that a new owner would have the same agenda.

[imported_Magman]

Torg here as well.

[Kansas Jim]

I know a lot of people want D6 to be revived as well as Torg.

Are there any lesser properties that you would like to see revived?
There aren't really that many lesser properties for WEG to revive, once you take away those two and the licensed settings about all that's left is the Masterbook system, Shatterzone, Bloodshadows and The Price of Freedom.

[skeloric]

The Price of Freedom redone as a TORG powered RPG.
Full of '80s cliches that people honestly believed as gospel truth once upon a time (and some still do) and special rules for every vehicle blowing up even if it only has a flat tire.
Maybe even an A Team sidebar about building "contraptions" and 100% nonlethal firearms/high explosives combat.

Oh, I'm excited now!
Lets see The Price of Freedom RPG Powered By TORG Edition!

[The Game Guy]

I personally would love to see a revised version of Shatterzone, expanded and really updated.

But that's just me. I am a sci-fi nut

[skeloric]

I want them both to be TORG Cosms so that my Price of Freedom SKs can be fighting side by side with Shatterzone bounty hunters.

[Stormchild]

What about World of Aden? Though it was a licensed product, it looks like it was all but abandoned by Ubisoft which owns SSI today. It rested on my shelves for years, only now I have begun reading it and realized it is a better version of Aysle with lots of Earthdawn thrown in. Even among those friends who are avid computer gamers, no one has ever played the computer game Aden, so a new version seems quite unlikely.

[Havard]

Some things I would like to see:

TORG 2.0
Ofcourse.

ShatterZone
Possibly dualstatted for both TORG2.0 and D6. Although I don't mind having TORG Cosm info for SZ in the official books, I would like to see it marketed primarily as an independent line. The setting should be revised to give it a more clear focus to help market the line.

TORG Cosms as D6 Settings
Terra, Star Sphere and Aysle in particular would work well to cover the three lines of Adventure, Space and Fantasy.

Bloodshadows: First Godwar
The world of Marl as a more traditional fantasy setting.

Bloodshadows: Earth
The concepts from Bloodshadows, but set in an alternate earth in the 1920s. Sort of like how Ravenloft did Gothic earth.


What about World of Aden? Though it was a licensed product, it looks like it was all but abandoned by Ubisoft which owns SSI today. It rested on my shelves for years, only now I have begun reading it and realized it is a better version of Aysle with lots of Earthdawn thrown in. Even among those friends who are avid computer gamers, no one has ever played the computer game Aden, so a new version seems quite unlikely.

I like Aden, but I think it might be better to steal the interesting concepts from Aden and integrate them in a fantasy setting WEG owns (like Aysle). Afterall, this could easily be done in a way that wouldnt be a problem for copyright issues, and it would give WEG more freedom in what they would want to do with the setting.

Havard

[Kalzazz]

Unfortunately the only WEG things Im really familiar with are all licensed products that WEG probably no longer owns

[Crusis]

Unfortunately the only WEG things Im really familiar with are all licensed products that WEG probably no longer owns'

Pretty much the same here. My group plays 2nd Edition AD&D and 2nd Edition SW:G. Every Thurs night like clockwork for several years now. What's odd is that the stuff on my game shelf seems to be worth more than I paid for it new. Which leads me to believe that a lot of people really prefer the old systems or that game collectors seem to have more money than one would expect.

[Havard]

Pretty much the same here. My group plays 2nd Edition AD&D and 2nd Edition SW:G. Every Thurs night like clockwork for several years now. What's odd is that the stuff on my game shelf seems to be worth more than I paid for it new. Which leads me to believe that a lot of people really prefer the old systems or that game collectors seem to have more money than one would expect.

If the D6 SWRPG fan base is as big as it seems, would it not make sense for WEG to push a Space Opera setting for D6, complete with power swords, pirates, big hairy aliens, talking robots and Jed...Psionicists?

Havard

[Stormchild]

Bloodshadows: First Godwar
The world of Marl as a more traditional fantasy setting.

Bloodshadows: Earth
The concepts from Bloodshadows, but set in an alternate earth in the 1920s. Sort of like how Ravenloft did Gothic earth. Havard

Good idea. Bloodshadows, being the only one-world-product WEG still has all rights to (afaik) could be expanded into a full line of settings. It even could be expanded into a fantasy-in-space-setting (no jedis included of course).

In order to do that the geography needs to be fleshed out. So WEG could begin with a world book that describes the geography in the god war, the second god war and a future setting complete with cities and how they evolve from ancient times to future.

This could give players a sense of history which I missed in the published books and with history it is easier to flesh out the cities and other hot spots.

This could then be used as a starting point for adventures in these three (or more) settings. Then this could be expanded in detailed setting books.

[Stormchild]

I like Aden, but I think it might be better to steal the interesting concepts from Aden and integrate them in a fantasy setting WEG owns (like Aysle). Afterall, this could easily be done in a way that wouldnt be a problem for copyright issues, and it would give WEG more freedom in what they would want to do with the setting.Havard

That was my first impression too, but it is much more difficult than it looks. The merit of Aden is a world with lots of interdependent well developed hot spots (looks like I am a fan of hot spots as a ways to flesh out settings). Some can easily be stolen for Aysle (some look as they where to be meant for Aysle in the first place) but others do only work in the setting as it is. Many are even obviously stolen from other settings, so stealing them again should not be a problem.

[The Game Guy]

I know they are putting out another Ghostbusters video game. It would be cool if WEG could get the license back and do an updated Ghostbusters RPG.

But the license for that is probably expensive

[skeloric]

I know they are putting out another Ghostbusters video game. It would be cool if WEG could get the license back and do an updated Ghostbusters RPG.

But the license for that is probably expensive
The potential new owner might actually have the cash needed to pursue the license.

[Kalzazz]

Id like to actually get the Hercules and Xena game, I know nothing about it save that it exists, but I loved the TV shows

[skeloric]

Id like to actually get the Hercules and Xena game, I know nothing about it save that it exists, but I loved the TV shows

The Herc and Xena game supposedly had a chapter that was cut at the last moment from the book or something and if you do get the game you should look online for "free additional content" or whatever.
I think it still exists somewhere.
I also think it was a magic system or similar?

[The Game Guy]

The potential new owner might actually have the cash needed to pursue the license.

That is true. It has been awhile since there really has been anything Ghostbusters out, so it may not be as expensive as I think it might be.

[cheshire]

What would I like to see revived? Heh... Star Wars. But that just isn't going to happen. The latest Saga stuff isn't bad, but the fluff isn't quite as good as the old WEG stuff.

[pathfinderap]

That is true. It has been awhile since there really has been anything Ghostbusters out, so it may not be as expensive as I think it might be.

Well that could change, there is a new film in the pipeline, right now they are looking into script writers, (they have already started putting down feelers for which acters they want)

The old crew would be only involed as cameos, as they pass on the torch to a new gen of Ghostbusters,

[Whill]

If the D6 SWRPG fan base is as big as it seems, would it not make sense for WEG to push a Space Opera setting for D6, complete with power swords, pirates, big hairy aliens, talking robots and Jed...Psionicists?

I agree. D6 Space with an original yet Star-Wars-inspired setting should be the flagship of the next phase of D6 and WEG. It should remain very modular so people can just plug in "Star Wars" (and possibly other stuff) if they want.


What would I like to see revived? Heh... Star Wars. But that just isn't going to happen. The latest Saga stuff isn't bad, but the fluff isn't quite as good as the old WEG stuff.

Star Wars is obviously my # 1 choice of the WEG game I'd like to see revived, but I prefer to maintain a little optimism that it may actually happen someday. We all know it isn't gonna happen any time soon, but in the far off future? Maybe. I dream for a day that Lucasfilm would like to refresh the game by taking the licence from WotC and giving it back to WEG.

There are two realistic problems with this possiblity:

1. D&D (and therefore d20) is a juggernaut. I'm so happy that Lucas didn't go to TSR first so we have the previous D6 game at all, but now that WotC has its icy grip on Star Wars, it is going to be difficult to convince Lucasfilm that anyone else could market and support a Star Wars RPG like they can.

2. With the current state of WEG, it is difficult to forsee a furture in which WEG (or whomever will be the future owner of D6) will be able to rise from the ashes and becomes very popular and successful to the point of even seeming like a better alternative to WotC. I think the only chance of this happening will be if D6 can demonstrate its superior cinematic system in a larger market by getting a hold of another adventure movie licence and doing very well with it. What licence could they get? I don't know. Even with a new movie coming out, I don't think Ghostbusters is gonna do it this time.

[pathfinderap]

True, the way to a fast buck is a movie licence rpg, they (almost) always sell well

And true, the new movie will not likely be enough to support another Ghostbusters rpg (but watch the prices rocket for the old WEG stuff)

The only two licence I would look at are

WILLOW
With a movie and a few books to support this setting,as well as Lucas saying he was thinking of bringing Willow back for the small screen, he may be waiting to see how well the live action Star Wars TV show fairs first
This could be a cheap licence (as Lucas stuff goes)

TOMB RAIDER
Not the movie, it would cost too much (and again there are talks of a thrid film, it has already been scouted out for locations) But the Comic books, the system would work well, and the book would have plenty of ready graphics/art work to use, (if you can't see how to make this work as a rpg better gimmie a call)

[Stormchild]

Men in Black. It was a WEG game, it is cinematic and it works perfect with D6

Stargate. Though it has never been WEG, it should be. D6 space would do the trick without many alterations.

The same with The Mummy and Dr. Who.

[Sketchpad]

I'd like to see d6 get on its feet and launch its own brand strongly ... kind of like Forgotten Realms by WotC or the Champions Universe for Hero.

Then I would like to see some licenses ...
Ghostbusters would be cool ... DC or Marvel would be very nice if done well ... a good horror franchise would be good as well (too bad Supernatural is being picked up). Maybe a d6 CSI? ;) Or how about Bond?

[skeloric]

Maybe do a few tie in sourcebooks for shows that didn't make it through their first or second season.
And not just film, books would also be a good source.

But I really think that if they launch with a licensed book that they should follow it up with a strongly supported non-licensed book for when the license runs out.
A license is a double edged sword in its familiarity.
Maybe instead, it should be like AFMBE where their deadworlds are a pastiche/homage.
I'd almost rather a game setting LIKE one I'd seen in a film or book rather than deal with the real thing.

[Sketchpad]

I'd almost rather a game setting LIKE one I'd seen in a film or book rather than deal with the real thing.

I agree. It'd be great to have an official/licensed setting ... but it'd be better to see something that d6 could use to get said licenses in the long run. Maybe support it with a book series or some audio-play podcasts ...

[The Game Guy]

Dr. Who.

Actually a new Dr. Who game is on it's way so I doubt the license will be up for grabs for awhile.

Sadly.

[The Game Guy]

WILLOW
With a movie and a few books to support this setting,as well as Lucas saying he was thinking of bringing Willow back for the small screen, he may be waiting to see how well the live action Star Wars TV show fairs first
This could be a cheap licence (as Lucas stuff goes)


I know a game designer who created a Willow RPG way back when Willow was released.

Some game company bought it and sat on it and never published it which is too bad.

Perhaps they inquired about the cost of the license and it turned out to be too much (they may have bought it first and then tried to get the license, which would have been dumb). I dont know/remember the whole story about it though.